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Scam alert!!
Warning to
those who try and SCAM
Caution should be taken very seriously for potential buyers of anything you have to
sell on the internet.
There are currently some "geniuses" out there that think folks on the
Internet are stupid enough to think they will sell their bike or other goods to them by
sending them a "cashiers check" over the amount of the asking price and asking
them to send them their property and the change back...Looking for poor penmanship, and
other key words like "Client, Africa, Nigeria, Cheque, Change and other obvious
words" will help you pick a "winner" in no time. Here is an example
of this message going around:
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"Thanks
for your urgent reply .I think we should proceed to payment. There is this client
of mine who is in states now, he is about giving me a cheque of $5000 he his owing
me, i will then instuct him to forward the cheque to you so when you cash it you
send the change to me while am still in Africa , i think i really need it here in
Africa , if this is ok by you i will like you to send the following information so
that my client will use the information to forward the cheque to you".
YOUR
NAME IN FULL.
YOUR
CONTACT ADDRESS .
YOUR
PRSONAL PHONE NUMBER.
If all this information is given my client will then send the
cheque to you . hope to here from you asap,so i can get my shipper prepared too.
Possible Response: A MGNOC
visitor done this and he said he has stopped receiving such messages.
I sold a vintage bicycle a few months back and received a flood of
these Nigerian offers to sell them the bike and send them the "change".
I kept ignoring them but finally couldn't resist. I replied to a few, and
when I replied I used poor English, misspelling, incorrect capitalization and
punctuation. I got two of them to send me the checks, which were cashier's
checks supposedly from Wells Fargo Bank. I took one to Wells and they told me it
was a bad forgery (surprise!). Anyway, I told the morons who
sent them to me that I had cashed the checks and decided to keep the money and my
bicycle, and not send them anything. I never told them their checks couldn't
be cashed. I kept the checks as a little souvenir. Their replies were
hilarious (death threats, telling me they'd call the FBI, etc, all in bad
English); the way I look at it they had to spend money to send the checks over via
FedEx, so I'm putting a small dent in their idiotic scam. ED
note: This would work best if you had a post office box I assume. |
Notice to the Scammers
Us motorcycle riders will not tolerate any of this non-sense. We can and will
have you turned in to the proper authorities. Do you honestly think that your email
address, and other encrypted information you send over the internet is not traceable?
It is traceable right to the computer you sent it on. Do not try it.
An actual email transcript from a motorcycle seller on
MGNOC.com below:
From: Harry Hilp
To: Roy
Sent: Friday, October 08, 2004 7:22 AM
Subject: Re: 1984 Moto Guzzi California
II......................................$3700
HELLO,
THANKS FOR THE MAIL SO MUCH SO I AM FROM IRELAND SO I WILL CALL MY
CLIENT TO ISSUE OUT THE CHEQUE OF $7500 FOR YOU AND AFTER YOU
RECEIEVE THE CHEQUE YOU WILL DEDUCT YOUR MONEY AND SEND THE REST TO MY
SHIPPING COMPANY THAT WILL COME FOR THE PICK UP OF THE 1984 Moto Guzzi
California II IN YOUR LOCATION SO WHEN YOU GET THE CHEQUE YOU TAKE IT TO YOUR
BANK AND DEPOSIT IT AND AFTER THE CHEQUE CLEAR YOU CAN NOW SEND THE REMAINING
FUND TO MY SHIPPING COMPANY AND I WILL NEED THIS INFORMATION BELOW:
FULL NAME:
FULL POSTAL ADDRESS:
ZIP CODE:
CITY:
STATE:
COUNTRY:
PERSONAL PHONE NUMBER:
I WILL NEED THIS INFORMATION SO THAT THE CHEQUE WILL BE ISSUED OUT
TO YOU AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.I WILL BE WAITING FOR YOUR MAIL.PLEASE
SEND THE PIC OF THE 1984 Moto Guzzi California II.
THANKS.
HARRY
Roy wrote:
Harry, Yes the bike is still for sale as
advertised. I will take cash, or a US bank Certified Check only. Check must
clear before bike is released. Photos enclosed. Thanks for asking, Roy.
----- Original Message -----
From: Harry Hilp
To: Roy
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 10:13 AM
Subject: 1984 Moto Guzzi California
II......................................$3700
HI THERE,
I AM HARRY HILP,I AM INTERESTED IN YOUR 1984 Moto Guzzi California II
POSTED FOR SALE,SO I WILL LIKE TO KNOW IT'S CONDITION IF STILL FOR
SALE,AND ALSO SEND ME SOME PIC OF IT IF AVAILABLE,LET ME KNOW THE LAST
PRICE IF STILL AVAILABLE FOR SALE AND IF YOU CAN ACCEPT CHEQUE AS
PAYMENT.
HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOONEST.
THANKS,
HARRY
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